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TB311 Rev 4 – Update CNC11 to CNC12
How to upgrade from CNC11 Software to CNC12 software This is necessary if the user wants to use the virtual control
panel or the Wireless MPG
Requirements
1 Windows 10 PC configured for CNCPC duty and meets the minimum PC performance specs found here
http //www centroidcnc com/cnc_pc_performance_requirements html
2 The l atest Centroid CNC12 installer for use with Oak Allin1DC and MPU11 here
http //www centroidcnc com/centroid_diy/centroid_cnc_software_downloads html
3 If you plan on using the new Virtual Control Panel A touch screen 1920x1080 LCD display
Special Cases and Rules Most CNC12 upgrades are quite quick and simple to do there are a few exceptions
• All CNC11 Centroid Standard and Custom PLC programs are supported “as is” and will function with CNC12 as
they did in CNC11 with no additional work needed A simple “restore report” will install the CNC11 PLC program
into CNC12 automatically
• All CNC11 PLC programs do not support the new wireless MPG funtionality
• All Centroid standard CNC12 PLC programs do support the new wireless MPG
• If upgrading to CNC12 and wireless MPG support is desired there are two scenarios to gain wireless functionality
with CNC12 1 Determine if the CNC11 PLC program is a Centroid Standard PLC program OR a customized
PLC program If it is a standard PLC program then the CNC11 to CNC12 upgrade with MPG support is simple
2 If the CNC11 PLC program is a custom program and wireless MPG support is desired the custom PLC
program will have to be edited and recompiled to support the new wiresless MPG
• Older systems running CNC11 versions before v3 06 must be updated and run with CNC11 v3 06 first Once the
control has been initialized using the v3 06 software at least once CNC PC can be updated to the latest CNC12
Software Contact support support@centroidcnc com to request the v3 06 installer
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Update Procedure
1 Start with CNC11 open and at the main screen Press F7 Utility F8 Option Look at the MPU PLC program
listed If the program has allin1dc basic or oak basic in the name this is a Centroid Standard PLC program If
Basic or Standard is not part of the name this is a customized PLC program The Centroid Standard PLC
programs included with CNC12 contains support for the Wireless MPG For custom or customized PLC programs
that require wireless MPG support Centroid can add the Wireless MPG logic for a fee Send an email to
support@centroidcnc com for more information
2 Hit ESC on the keyboard and press F7 Create Report A prompt to save a report will appear Save a report to a
convenient location such as “C \Users\CNCuser\Documents” where “CNCuser” is the user name on the console
3 It is also recommended that a backup of C \cncm or C \cnct is made Copy the original cncm or cnct directory and
paste to another location such as a USB flash drive This will serve as a complete backup of the working software
and any Gcode part programs Having a complete copy of the original cncm or cnct directory will make it simple to
revert back to the original running configuration and/or extact individual files or information about the original
installation if needed
4 Hit ESC to the main screen in CNC11 and hit F10 Shut Down F9 Exit CNC11
5 Download the latest CNC12 software from the centroid site found here
http //www centroidcnc com/centroid_diy/centroid_cnc_software_downloads html
6 Extract the install folder and run the CNC12 installer The Software installation process is available in Chapter 3 2
of the ALLin1DC and Oak Install manuals http //www centroidcnc com/centroid_diy/centroid_manuals html
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7 After the installer has finished installing CNC12 A prompt will appear “Would you like to install a PLC Program at
this time?” Step 1 determined whether the system had a Standard or customized PLC program If the PLC
program installed is not correct the old PLC program can be reinstalled by loading the report from step 2
a For a custom PLC Click “No” The installer will close and you are done
b For a Standard PLC Click “Yes” This will open PLC installer This can also be opened as a separate
program by opening “plcinstaller exe” in the cnc12 install folder
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i Using PLC Installer Select Lathe/Mill_ALLin1DC/OAK_Centroid_Standard In this example
“Mill_ALLIN1DC_Centroid_Standard” is selected A preview of the program will appear on right side
Next to “Purpose ” The function of the PLC program will be listed If the PLC program includes support
for Wireless MPG and VCP that support will be listed here More information about the PLC programs
and what schematic to choose are listed in Tech Bulletin 312 https //www centroidcnc com/dealersupport/
tech_bulletins/uploads/312 pdf
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ii After selecting the appropriate PLC program Click “Install” A prompt to Replace or Skip Files will apear
Select “Replace the files in the destination” This will replace your CNC11 files with updated CNC12
Files
iii The installer will finish copying files and message “Installation Complete” Will appear Click “OK”
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iv Now open the report_ systemID _ year mm dd _ hr mm ss zip file that you had saved in step 2 Copy
and Paste the following two files into C \cncm for mill or C \cnct for lathe
A cncm prm xml and cncmcfg xml for Mill
B cnct prm xml and cnctcfg xml for Lathe
v Highlight and copy the two files by right Clicking and selecting “Copy”
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vi Navigate to C \ directory and Right Click “cncm” or “cnct” and select “Paste”
vii A prompt will appear “Replace or Skip Files” Select “Replace the files in the destination”
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8 The control is now updated to CNC12 Power down and completely restart the CNC control Run CNC12 and
verify that the control is working correctly If there are issues there is always the option of restoring the report
from step 2 From the main screen hit F7 Utility F2 Restore Report Navigate to the report saved at the
beginning and Click “Open” This will restore the original PLC and configuration The control will be running
CNC12 but using the PLC and configuration files from CNC11
9 When the updated control is confirmed to be working properly another report from the system should be created
This report should be saved to a USB flash drive and/or cloud storage Email the report and control serial number
to Support@centroidcnc com for safe keeping Doing this will also keep a copy saved as a sent email This is
good insurance in case something ever happens to the CNC control This also provides Centroid with a report that
can later be used to help with tech support issues
a Hit ESC on the keyboard and press F7 Create Report You will be prompted to save a report Save a report
to a convenient location
10 To enable the Virtual control panel or Wireless MPG
a From the main screen in CNC12 Hit F1 Setup F3 Config Enter the password default 137 hit F3
Parms
b Change the following parameters
c Enable Virtual control panel Parameter #219 = 1
d Wireless MPG Set MPG CNC12 parameter #218 = 15 for 4 axis Mills/Routers
#218 = 7 for 3 axis Mills/Routers
#218 = 3 for Lathes
#348 = 15 MPG ON
#350 = 100 100 steps per rev
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Related Technical Information links
Tech Bulletin 310 Disabling Windows Updates on CNC11/12 Systems Running Windows 10
http //www centroidcnc com/dealersupport/tech_bulletins/uploads/310 pdf
Tech Bulletin 309 CNC12 Windows 10 Configuration http //www centroidcnc com/dealersupport/tech_bulletins/
uploads/309 pdf
Tech Bulletin 273 CENTROID CNC PC minimum hardware and benchmark requirements for proper CNC
control operation http //www centroidcnc com/dealersupport/tech_bulletins/uploads/273 pdf
Tech Bulletin 312 Standard PLC Program Quick Reference
https //www centroidcnc com/dealersupport/tech_bulletins/uploads/312 pdf
Tech Bulletin 313 Centroid CNC12 New Parameter Quick Reference
https //www centroidcnc com/dealersupport/tech_bulletins/uploads/313 pdf
Document History
Rev4 Edited on 2019 04 19 by #423
Rev3 Edited on 2019 04 11 by #423
Rev2 Edited on 2019 03 18 by #423
Rev1 Edited on 2019 03 14 by #423 and KM
Rev0 Created on 2019 03 12 by #423 edited by KM
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